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GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:Hank Aaron/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Failed "good article" nomination
[edit]This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of May 21, 2009, compares against the six good article criteria:
- 1. Well written?: The article has several basic structural problems. The WP:LEAD exceeds tha four paragraph limit due to several abbreviated paragraphs lumped in together. This problem extends into the main body of the text where several sections contain numerous choppy paragraphs. The article needs to be reorganized to have more substantive paragraphs. I would convert $10,000 in 1952 to current dollars (see Fountain of Time). I would use the link for the Puerto Rican league like they do in the Jackie Robinson article rather than name the country.
- 2. Factually accurate?: Numerous paragraphs have no citations. The article should be reorganized so that each paragraph has at least one citation.
- 3. Broad in coverage?: I would also prefer to see a section devoted to a statistical summary of his career. See Barry Bonds, which has a section showing where he ranks in several important statistical categories. Aaron's article would benefit by such a seciton. I would also expand his playing career section so that it is not out of balance with the home run record cont3ent.
- 4. Neutral point of view?: Yes
- 5. Article stability? Yes
- 6. Images?: File:HankAaron1957.jpg appears to be under consideration for deletion.
This article has a way to go. I would like to see expansion in areas and reorganization in others.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- In my opinion, this article needs more work before making GA-there are POV and peacock statements, some of which I've edited, and I propose to do still more in this regard. Hushpuckena (talk) 20:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- Agree.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]Hello. In the infobox, it says that Aaron was an All-Star 25 times from 1955-1975. I don't want to count all the years but I know that that isn't 25 years. Could somebody fact check that? Thanks. Cherrell410 (talk) 01:51, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Between 1959 and 1962 there were two all star games every year. This info is correct. Indrian (talk) 01:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ok thanks Cherrell410 (talk) 01:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Henry Aaron
[edit]Hi. Can someone explain to me why this page is called "Hank Aaron" and not "Henry Aaron"? It is well-known amongst baseball fans that he preferred being called 'Henry' and that it was the baseball writers who called him that DESPITE his objections.
It was very common for sportswriters to do this with black players. Dick Allen, another great ballplayer from that time, had this very problem with the writers. He preferred being called 'Dick' and they called him 'Richie'. His page is titled with the name he preferred and I would very much like to have this article's name changed to what Henry preferred to be called than what a bunch of sportswriters decided his name was. Out of respect, if nothing else.
Edit: I would do it myself but I don't know how; still quite new to editing and whatnot. Thanks. All The Knowledge in the World (talk) 09:44, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- You can look at the sections above titled Henry and Requested move 23 January 2021 for previous discussions of this. In general the guidelines for nicknames can be found here and specifically for sports people here which discusses nicknames in the intro. Hope this helps. Winston365 (talk) 13:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- I did read it. I don't understand the controversy is all. Changing the name of the page will not erase the nickname - "Hammerin' Hank" is in the intro, after all - AND will also respect the wishes of the person.
- I very much agree with the person who began the 2021 discussion on this matter and am disappointed that most people rejected the name change; it would be a good way to honor him. It was HIS preference, after all. Surely that is good enough, no?
- (Also, thank you, Winston365, for the links to the guides. Still quite new to all this and appreciate any help that I get!) All The Knowledge in the World (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
It was HIS preference, after all. Surely that is good enough, no?
No, it isn't. We edit according to Wikipedia policies; in this case, WP:COMMONNAME: "Wikipedia ... generally prefers the name that is most commonly used ..." -- Pemilligan (talk) 14:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC)- I guess that's fair enough. It's just that most baseball sites - Baseball-Reference.com and the Society of American Baseball Research, among others - list his name as "Henry Aaron" and I just wondered why Wikipedia didn't do the same.
- While my stance remains that it should be "Henry Aaron", I do understand why it isn't so. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. :) -- All The Knowledge in the World (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
2nd all time home runs
[edit]In the section that begins “holds the following mlb records “, after the firsts is listed a 3rd and 5th all time stat. Seems 2nd all time home runs should be included. 209.188.119.217 (talk) 03:37, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Number of siblings
[edit]In the introduction, it says "Aaron was... one of seven children". In the early life section, it says "He had seven siblings". Which of these is correct? 92.13.175.68 (talk) 08:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Negro leagues need to be added to info box
[edit]The Negro Leagues are recognized as a major league per MLB’s decision in 2024. This is also supported by other players who were in the Negro League Articles such Jackie Robinson. Who is recognized for his Time with the KC Monarchs.
it is wrong not to include it Caruggeri18 (talk) 01:13, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- [1] His stats are also not added to his total.-- Yankees10 01:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Reminder that not all Negro League records were properly kept. Therefore of course they wouldn’t be available as they may be lost. Caruggeri18 (talk) 02:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Caruggeri18: See also Talk:Hank_Aaron/Archive_1#2021_redux. MLB recognizes until 1948; this is 1952. Rgrds. --BX (talk) 04:29, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Reminder that not all Negro League records were properly kept. Therefore of course they wouldn’t be available as they may be lost. Caruggeri18 (talk) 02:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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